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Whippet
A fast and comfortable steel gravel bike that's easy to love
The Whippet is your private jet for gravel roads.
Designed to glide effortlessly over rough terrain, it delivers maximum speed with unmatched comfort. The large tires and low tire pressures reduce rolling resistance, enhance traction, and minimize energy-draining vibrations. Custom UDH-compatible dropouts and convenient external cable routing ensure straightforward setup and hassle-free maintenance.
Frameset
$2,600
- Whippet frame
- Seido MGV carbon fork
- Wolf Tooth Performance headset
GRX build
$4,850
- Whippet frame
- Seido MGV carbon fork
- Wolf Tooth Performance headset
- GRX build kit
Custom build
$TBD- Whippet frame
- Seido MGV carbon fork
- Headset of your choice
- Custom build kit
Update: As of Jan. 17, the first batch of Whippets for April 2025 delivery has been sold. I plan to sell another batch of frames around April for a summertime delivery. If you want to get notified when new frames will be available for purchase, feel free to subscribe to the Manzanita newsletter. There's a newsletter signup form at the bottom of this page.
Show me the GRX build kit
- Handlebar
- FSA NS AGX alloy
- Handlebar tape
- MSW anti-slip gel
- Stem
- FSA V-Drive
- Headset
- Wolf Tooth Performance
- Spacers
- Problem Solvers alloy
- Seatpost
- FSA V-Drive
- Saddle
- Not included
- Pedals
- Not included
- Brake/shift levers
- Shimano GRX RX820
- Front rotor
- Shimano GRX 180 or 160
- Rear rotor
- Shimano GRX 160 or 140
- Rear derailler
- Shimano GRX RX820
- Chain
- Shimano XT 12s
- Cassette
- Shimano XT 10-51t 12s
- Crank
- Shimano GRX RX810
- Chainring
- Shimano GRX 42t or 40t
- Bottom bracket
- Shimano BSA
- Wheelset
- Astral Outback Approach alloy
- Tires
- Rene Herse 55mm knobbies (recommended) or customer's choice
*Pricing and parts list subject to change due to availability. But don't worry, we'll make your new Whippet awesome.
Geometry
The Whippet comes in 8 frame sizes to cover a wide range of rider heights. Please use the Frame Fit Calculator below to help determine the best frame size for you.
Design highlights
- The extended frame reach is optimized for stems ranging from 50mm to 90mm. A shorter stem returns some steering responsiveness when paired with larger tires.
- A short seattube promotes additional bump-absorbing flex from the exposed seat post.
- The longer headtube reduces the need for excessive headset spacers, making it easier to achieve the ideal handlebar height.
- A slack—but not overly slack—headtube angle, paired with a generous fork offset, provides confident control, even with narrow handlebars.
- Chainstay length increases with frame size, improving weight distribution for better traction.
M1 | M2 | M3 | M4 | M5 | M6 | M7 | M8 | |
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Avg. saddle height | 662 | 683 | 704 | 725 | 747 | 768 | 790 | 811 |
Reach | 356 | 367 | 378 | 390 | 401 | 413 | 425 | 436 |
Stack | 541 | 558 | 579 | 597 | 614 | 632 | 654 | 671 |
HT angle | 70.50 | 70.50 | 70.50 | 70.50 | 70.50 | 70.50 | 70.50 | 70.50 |
HT length | 92 | 110 | 133 | 138 | 157 | 176 | 199 | 218 |
ST angle | 73.5 | 73.5 | 73 | 73 | 73 | 73 | 73 | 73 |
ST length* | 402 | 423 | 444 | 465 | 487 | 508 | 530 | 551 |
CS length | 420 | 420 | 423 | 425 | 430 | 435 | 440 | 445 |
BB drop | 74 | 74 | 74 | 86 | 86 | 86 | 86 | 86 |
BB height** | 275 | 275 | 275 | 282 | 282 | 282 | 282 | 282 |
Wheel size | 650b | 650b | 650b | 700c | 700c | 700c | 700c | 700c |
Wheelbase | 991 | 1008 | 1030 | 1043 | 1066 | 1089 | 1113 | 1136 |
Mechanical trail** | 63 | 63 | 63 | 70 | 70 | 70 | 70 | 70 |
Standover** | 719 | 738 | 759 | 786 | 804 | 823 | 844 | 863 |
*Center to top
**Measured with 57mm (2.25") tire
Frame Fit Calculator
Measure your current bike, and the calculator will not only recommend the best Whippet frame size for you but also recommend the optimal stem length, stem angle, and headset spacer stack. It's the easiest and most accurate way to guarantee the perfect fit.
Measuring instructions
Find your fit fast
This process should take around 10 minutes.
You will need the following to get started:
- A drop bar bike you're comfortable on
- Tape measure
- Pencil or pen
- Piece of paper
Step 1: Bike setup
- Place your bike along an inside corner of a room with the rear wheel touching one wall and the bike positioned parallel with the adjacent wall.
- The front wheel should be pointing straight ahead.
- The handlebar can rest on the adjacent wall to keep the bike upright.
Measuring tips
- Measure to the nearest millimeter.
- If you're using a tape measure with feet and inches, measure to the nearest 1/16 inch and then convert to millimeters.
- Try to hold the measuring tape as close to horizontal and vertical as you can.
- Try to keep the measuring tape parallel with the wall the bike is resting on.
Step 2: Measure handlebar stack
- Measure vertically from the floor to the center of the handlebar near the stem and write down your measurement (y1).
- Measure vertically from the floor to the center of the bottom bracket and write down your measurement (y2).
- Subtract the second measurement from the first measurement and enter that number as your handlebar stack (y1 - y2).
Step 3: Measure handlebar reach
- Measure horizontally from the rear wall to the center of your handlebars near the stem and write down your measurement (x1).
- Measure horizontally from the rear wall to the center of your bottom bracket and write down your measurement (x2).
- Subtract the second measurement from the first measurement and enter that number as your handlebar reach (x1 - x2).
Results
Current bike | Best match | Best neg. stem | |
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Handlebar stack | |||
Handlebar reach | |||
Frame size | - | ||
Stem angle | - | ||
Stem length | - | ||
Spacer stack | - |
Based on the measurements from your bike, the calculator has found the best setup for your new Whippet.
The best match shows you the closest dimensional match to your current bike.
But some people might prefer the look of their stem angled down. In that case, the calculator has also found the best match with a negative stem angle.
Many times the best match is also a setup with a negative stem angle. Win, win!
Tube selection
Whippet frames feature a mix of Columbus and Velospec steel tubing, along with 4130 tubing sourced domestically. Each tube is carefully selected to optimize the balance of durability, weight, and ride quality.
- Headtube
- Columbus Spirit 46/36 tapered or 46 straight for sizes M1 and M2
- Toptube
- Columbus SL 25.4 8/5/8 for size M1, Velospec Pro 28.6 8/5/8 for sizes M2-M6, Velospec Pro 28.6 9/6/9 for sizes M7 and M8
- Downtube
- Velospec Pro 31.8 8/5/8 for sizes M1-M3, Velospec Pro 34.9 8/5/8 for sizes M4-M6, Velospec Pro 34.9 9/6/9 for sizes M7 and M8
- Seattube
- Velospec 28.6 1.2/6/9 externally butted
- BB shell
- Paragon Machine Works 68mm threaded BSA with internal relief for weight savings
- Chainstays
- 4130 19x0.9 straight gauge custom bent in house
- Seatstays
- 4130 12.7x0.9 straight gauge or 14x0.9 for sizes M7 and M8 custom bent in house
Custom dropouts
Designing the Whippet dropouts was a true passion project. My goal was to create a dropout that not only stood out as unique to the Whippet but also ensured perfect alignment for the flat mount brake, worked seamlessly with SRAM's Universal Derailleur Hanger (UDH), and was straightforward for powder coaters to finish. After nearly a year of design and prototyping, I'm thrilled with the final result.
The Whippet dropouts feature a combination of laser-cut steel plates and bolt-on, CNC-machined, hard-anodized aluminum inserts. The inserts nest into alignment holes cut into the steel plates, acting as shear keys to reduce stress on the bolts that secure the two parts together.
This design delivers precise alignment for SRAM's UDH on the driveside and the 140/160 flat mount brake on the non-driveside. Proper alignment of the flat mount brake is critical to prevent annoying rotor rub and brake squeal.
To add a touch of personality, one of the stainless steel washers is laser cut with the Manzanita logo.
Color options
Whippet frames are powder-coated six miles from Manzanita World Headquarters, and the 3M vinyl decals are made by a sign shop conveniently located down the street from the powder coater. Whenever possible, I prioritize working with local businesses, not just for convenience, but because it means faster turnaround times, better quality oversight, reduced environmental impact of transportation, and most importantly, it supports the local economy.
The frame is available in two color schemes: Manzanita red with light blue graphics and white with black graphics.
For an extra $100, you can opt for a custom color scheme. Once you've placed your deposit, I can help you dial in your custom colors.
By default the Seido carbon fork comes unpainted. If you're looking to add some color to both the frame and the fork, please contact me for a quote and estimated turnaround time.
Custom guides
Housing guide design is often treated as an afterthought. Bike frames typically go one of two ways: full internal routing, which can be a maintenance nightmare, or oversized, unattractive external guides held in place by cheap zip ties.
For the Whippet, I set out to elevate the function and form of the humble housing guide.
Smaller bosses
The first step was to create a new attachment point, appropriately sized for the task. Typically, M5 bolts are used to secure housing guides to a frame. But for lightweight housing, an M5 bolt is overkill. It offers far more strength than needed. Look at most suspension forks. Their housing guides are secured with M3 bolts. That's the size I chose for the Whippet's housing guide bosses. A local machine shop produced a small batch of these redesigned bosses.
The smaller M3 bosses come with another benefit: they're nearly invisible. If you plan to run a wireless drivetrain, your Whippet won't need housing guides on the driveside chainstay. Thanks to the compact size of the M3 bosses, they almost disappear, preserving the sleek, minimalist aesthetic that wireless setups are known for.
Friction guides
Next, I designed bolt-on guides that eliminate the need for zip ties or fussy plastic clips. Inspired by the housing guide on the RockShox SID SL fork, I created the friction guide. These guides are 3D-printed to snugly fit either 4mm derailleur housing or 5mm brake housing along the chainstays. The housing snaps securely into the groove, held in place by the guide's precise fit. No zip ties, no fuss.
Frame protection guide
Finally, I addressed the challenge of routing housing along the downtube. When riding off-road, the front tire flings rocks and debris toward the downtube, especially near the bottom bracket shell. This is an ideal spot to add frame protection while also securing housing.
The bolt-on frame protection guide combines both functions. It shields the frame from debris and protects the housing, all in one streamlined design. And for added utility, the guide is compatible with standard M5 bolts, allowing you to attach a water bottle cage over it.
Dropper post guide
On the back of the seattube, you'll find a discreet, stainless 3d-printed guide that accepts 4mm housing for running a dropper post.
Tire clearance
Custom yoke
It's not easy to cram a 57mm-wide tire into a gravel bike frame. Between the tire and the chainring, there's not much room for the chainstay to sneak through. That's where yokes can help.
For years, I've relied on off-the-shelf yokes that work well but tend to be quite heavy. With the Whippet, I wanted something better.
The yoke I designed is 3D-printed in stainless steel, featuring a hollow construction with thicker walls where it narrows to clear the tire and chainring. It transitions from a 19mm diameter where it connects to the chainstay to a 26x20mm oval at the bottom bracket shell.
On the non-drive side, the chainstay simply bends around the tire with no dimpling required. The round tube maintains its torsional and lateral stiffness, ensuring a solid pedaling platform. Excessive manipulation of chainstays can compromise their integrity over time, increasing the risk of cracking depending on the fabricator's skill.
Mud clearance
On most frame sizes, the seat tube is bent in-house to provide adequate tire clearance, leaving about a 1/2-inch gap between the tire and the tube. This reduces the likelihood of mud buildup. That's also why the frame has no bridges between the seatstays and chainstays. Bridges are simply another spot to collect mud.
Seido MGV fork
When searching for the right fork to pair with the Whippet frame, I wanted something that was lightweight, that had clearance for 700x57 tires, and that had mounts for bikepacking trips.
Once I laid my eyes on the specs of the Seido MGV fork it was a no-brainer to use it:
- Can run 160mm or 180mm rotors
- Can mount a lowrider rack for loads up to 20kg (44lbs)
- Can mount 3-pack cage for loads up to 4.5kg (10lbs)
- Internal routing for dynamo lighting
- Ample tire clearance without being too visually stout like MTB forks
FAQ
What are the frame specs?
- Max tire width
- 2.25" or 57mm
- Hub dimensions
- 12x100 front, 12x142 rear
- Derailleur hanger
- UDH / Sram Transmission
- Chainline
- 47mm to 49mm
- Min crank Q-factor
- 150mm
- Max chainring
- 42t
- Brake type
- Flat mount
- Max front rotor size
- 180mm
- Max rear rotor size
- 160mm
- Seat post diameter
- 27.2mm
- Seat post clamp diameter
- 29.8mm to 30.0mm
- Bottom bracket
- 68mm BSA
- Avg weight size M2
- 1750g
- Avg weight size M5
- 1850g
What's included with the frame?
- Seido MGV fork unpainted
- Front and rear bolt-on axles
- Sram Universal Derailleur Hanger
- Wolf Tooth seat collar
- Wolf Tooth Performance headset
- Chainstay protection
- 3d-printed friction housing guides
- 3d-printed frame protection guide
Can I get the frame and fork custom painted?
Yes you can. Contact me for pricing and turnaround time.
What is the return policy?
All Whippet frames are made to order, one-at-a-time in my workshop. Frame set and complete bike orders are final. I do not offer refunds or returns.
What is the warranty?
I use only the best tubing and raw materials for making your frame, and I stand by my work. If you are the original owner, Manzanita Cycles offers a lifetime warranty on all Manzanita-made products that fail due to a materials or manufacturing defect.
If you crash, abuse, modify, or damage your Manzanita product, or if you install parts incorrectly, use incompatible parts, or fail to do proper maintenance on your bike, then it will no longer be covered by the warranty. Any paint and graphics are also not covered.
If you have a problem with a component not made by Manzanita Cycles, it's best to contact the component manufacturer for support. However, if you're having trouble getting traction, let me know and I'll try to help out.
Can I run a front derailleur?
The Whippet is optimized for 1x drivetrains.
Can I run 650b wheels?
The three smallest frame sizes are designed around 650b wheels. All other sizes are designed around 700c wheels. If you run 650b wheels on the larger frame sizes your bottom bracket will drop around 19mm. That may cause frequent pedal strikes riding off road or when trying to pedal when cornering. Therefore, it's not recommended.
What's the narrowest tire I can run?
For sizes M1 to M3 that use 650b wheels, it's recommended to go no smaller than 42mm. For the larger sizes, it's recommended to go no smaller than 40mm. Remember though that your pedals will be closer to the ground running the minimum recommended tire sizes. Be more thoughtful when pedaling in corners or riding singletrack.
What's the max weight I can carry on a rear rack?
The frame will get wiggly if you try to add too much weight on a rear rack. I'd recommend carrying no more than 8lbs, including the weight of the rack.
What's the max weight I can carry on the fork?
The Seido MGV fork can carry a max load of 6.6lbs using a 2-bolt cage, 9.9lbs using a 3-bolt cage, 44lbs for a lowrider rack with 4 mounting points, and 22lbs for a rack with 3 mounting points.
How many headset spacers can I use?
Seido limits the total headset spacer stack below the stem to 35mm from the top of the upper bearing. The top cap of the headset that comes with the frame is 16mm tall. So you have 19mm of room for additional spacers.
Additionally, Seido requires that you leave 5mm of steerer tube above the stem. Your Whippet will come with Seido's installation instructions. Please refer to those when cutting your steerer tube.
Frame size M8 is limited to a 10mm spacer stack because the frame maxes out the fork's steerer tube length. This limitation is factored into the Frame Fit Calculator above.
Can I run a suspension fork on this frame?
Most gravel suspension forks with 30mm-40mm of travel will work. The taller fork length will slacken the seattube and headtube angles a bit, but not enough to dramatically change how the bike handles.
I don't want to run a carbon fork. Can you make me a steel fork instead?
The Whippet is designed specifically for the Seido MGV carbon fork with its tapered steerer. I think a large headtube and a skinny steel fork clash. But I'm happy to make you a bike similar to the Whippet with a skinny headtube and a matching steel fork. See the custom option.
Can I run my housing internally?
The Whippet is designed to be easy to maintain. All lines run externally along the downtube with a port in the seattube for running a dropper post. If you want a bike with full internal lines, I'm happy to make you a custom bike instead.
I broke/lost one of the guides? Can I get a replacement?
If for some reason you break or lose a guide, fret not, you can download the file to print yourself a replacement. The guides are designed to be printed with PLA, a bio-based filament that pretty much every 3d printer can work with.
If you're not keen to print your own guide, I'm happy to send a replacement for the cost of shipping.
Guides for all Whippet frames:
Guides for frame sizes M1-M3:
- Frame protection guide
- 3-line guide for shift, brake, and dropper
- 2-line guide for shift and brake
- 1-line guide for brake
Guides for frame sizes M4-M8:
Is shipping included in the price?
I typically use UPS to ship your bike with insurance to cover its replacement in case of theft or damage. Shipping to a US destination starts at $75 for a frame. Framesets or complete bikes will be more.
I'm also happy to ship to international destinations. But please note that shipping fees, import fees, and import taxes can get very expensive.
You can also pick up the bike from Manzanita Cycles World Headquarters if you live near Reno.